Pembicaraan:Jenghis Khan

Jenghis Khan bukan "Tokoh Dinasti Yuan"?

Memang benar pendiri de facto dinasti tersebut adalah Kubilai Khan, tetapi sejak pendirian Dinasti Yuan selalu dinyatakan bahwa Jenghis, Tolui, Ogodei, Guyuk dan Mongke adalah para kaisar dari Dinasti Yuan, dimana mereka semua memiliki nama posthumus (bisa lihat di Table of Chinese mornarchs, English Wikipedia ini). Ada konsensus di Wikipedia Indonesia tentang hal ini? Naval Scene 19:07, 28 Oktober 2006 (UTC)

maklum, habis kublai khan yang menyatukan seluruh China, bukan ayah atau kakeknya, terakhir dia yg mengalahkan dinasti song . sedangkan dinasti Yuan pertama kali dia yang dirikan di China itu sendiri, bukan mongol, jadi ga heran yg lain jadi tokoh mongol, dan kublai khan jadi tokoh dinasti yuan dan tokoh mongol. Yang pusing soal nama, kubilai khan, kublai khan, atau kublhai kan???

kemudian invasi mongol ke vietnam terakhir berhasil ga ya??? --a_tumiwa 06:49, 29 Oktober 2006 (UTC)

Saya kira, Jenghis Khan walaupun tidak menyatukan Tiongkok, namun karena ia dimasukkan sebagai kaisar pertama Dinasti Yuan oleh cucunya Kublai Khan, maka boleh saja ia dimasukkan ke dalam kategori Tokoh Dinasti Yuan. Hal yang sama berlaku pada Nurhachi dan Hong Taiji (2 kaisar pertama Dinasti Qing), yang tidak mempersatukan Tiongkok namun dianggap sebagai kaisar pertama dan kedua Dinasti Qing. Demikian dari saya. Rinto Jiang 14:33, 29 Oktober 2006 (UTC)

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Pembicaraan Kategori:Tokoh Mongolia#Jenghis Khan atau Khan Jenghis. ꦱꦭꦩ꧀ ‑Ｂｅｎｎｙｌｉｎ ^｢cakap｣ 15 Februari 2024 00.40 (WIB) 14 Februari 2024 17.40 (UTC)

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